Paiste 1000 : Platos

E pasa, pues e contactado con un chaval del foro que me vende un paiste 1000 a 100 € y me ha comentado esto:

"solo tiene en el reverso del plato una pequeñisima muesquecita como una abolladurita minuscula,que lleva en el plato casi desde el año que lo compre,nunca supe con que se hizo,no esta roto,ni va a romperse por eso"

¿que hago me lo pillo aun con ese toque,,,, y por ese dinero?, saludos y arriba el metal.

q coño es un paiste 1000?

es una serie de paiste que ya no se fabrica

ask2o escribió:
es una serie de paiste que ya no se fabrica

weno eso me lo podia imaginar. me referia a la altura d su gama. pero vamos, q el interesado es otro XD

E pasa, mmmmmmmmmmmmm no m confio de la muesca, que hariais ustedes??, saludos y arriba el metal.

pero pero pero pero pero... qué plato es? ride, china, splash... qué tamaño? 12', 18' 69' o_O' :-k

E pasa, ui perdon un power crash de 18, sorry, tanto pensar en,,,,no se ¿¿gallimimus,,,,? :), saludos y arriba el metal.

Efectivamente, los Paiste 1000 dejaron de fabricarse a finales de
los 80. Hasta hace bien poco (2000-2001) todavía podían verse
en algunas tiendas. Eran remesas sobrantes o no vendidas en su
época. Estaban muy bien porque eran platos de gama media con un
sonido excelente. Solían tener descuentos elevados por estar
descatalogados. Yo conseguí así un Power Ride por unas 15.000ptas
de antes (su precio original era bastante más).También tengo un
crash de 16'' recientemente adquirido, este de 2ª mano.

Ahí va un artículo sobre las series históricas de PAISTE:

Historic lines
Classic Paiste lines include:

302, 402, 502, 802 popular budget level cymbals from the 1990s - early 2000s, in 1997 were enhanced sonically and received the plus-labeling and the addition of the 802. Discontinued in 2005 from the way of the new Paiste Sound Technology-, or PST-lines.
Formula 602 series, made from B20 bronze, first released in 1957. These cymbals have a dedicated group of fans. Many examples of the heavier types still exist, butthe paper-thin crashes are rare and almost priceless, other models vary between these extremes.
101 series, different from current 101, beginner level cymbals made of nickel silver, produced from 1974 to -79. Then another Brass version Discontinued In 2005, for a newer version
404 series, beginner level CuSn8-cymbals, produced from 1974 to 1985.
505 series, advanced student CuSn8-cymbals, produced from 1974 to 1985.
100 series, beginner level cymbals made of Paiste's Brass Alloy, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s.
200 series, beginner level cymbals made of Paiste's Brass Alloy, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s.
400 series, advanced student cymbals made of CuSn8 bronze, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s. Was also available with COLORSOUND finishes.
500 series, orchestral/marching cymbals made of CuSn8 bronze, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s. Was also available with COLORSOUND finishes.
900 series, orchestral/marching cymbals made of CuSn8 bronze, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s. Was also available with COLORSOUND finishes.
1000 series, semi-professional line made of CuSn8 bronze, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s. Was also available in RUDE finish.
2000 professional series made of CuSn8 bronze, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s. Was also available with COLORSOUND and Sound Reflection finishes.
3000 professional series made of CuSn8 bronze, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s. Was also available with RUDE and Sound Reflection finishes.
Sound Formula, one of the first series to use Paiste's patented Signature Alloy, which was at first known as Sound Alloy or Sound Formula. Eventually absorbed by the "Signature" line.
COLORSOUND 5 series, professional CuSn8-cymbals, produced from appox. 1983 to 1986. Five colors were offered for visual appeal. Note: The COLORSOUND 5 cymbals are different than 400, 500, 900, 2000 and Visions cymbals even though they are colored, or have the COLORSOUND name attached.
VISIONS series, professional level; Both Signature Alloy and CuSn8 alloy cymbals, produced in the early mid 90s. Were treated with COLORSOUND process. Offered in Black only. Designed for Terry Bozzio.
BRASSTONES, an entry level Paiste Brass alloy series introduced in the early 90s, discontinued in the mid-90s.
Zilko A series made in the 1950's second to the Stambul line.
Stanople, a mid-line series introduced in the 1960s, discontinued in the 1970s.
Ludwig Standard, a mid-line series from the 1950s-70s produced for distribution by Ludwig Drums.
Stambul, their old top-of-the-line cymbals, produced from 1932 to 1965 from NS12 nickel-bronze and later made of CuSn8 bronze.
SOUND CREATION, top of the line professional bell bronze cymbals that were made alongside the 602 series starting in 1975 till the end of 80s.
Dixie, entry level NS12 cymbals made in the 60's, later also offered in B8.
Dimensions - This was considered a professional level cymbal which later merged in with the 2002 line. They were introduced in 1999 and are now discontinued.
Innovations - This is a professional level cymbal line made with the 2002 bronze. They are mechanically pre-shaped, hand hammered, and lathed. Introducted in 2001, this line is now discontinued.

nas de donde sacas estos articulos jacedres?

E pasa, joder que de informacion :) sta bueno.
Pues eso me lo pillo por los 100 € con esa muesca o no me arriesgo(pues creo que esa muesca ira a raja,,,,)??.
Saludos y arriba el metal.

snot escribió:
nas de donde sacas estos articulos jacedres?

pon Paiste en Wikipedia en ingles\\:D/

LoLo_La_bestiA escribió:
E pasa, pues e contactado con un chaval del foro que me vende un paiste 1000 a 100 € y me ha comentado esto:

"solo tiene en el reverso del plato una pequeñisima muesquecita como una abolladurita minuscula,que lleva en el plato casi desde el año que lo compre,nunca supe con que se hizo,no esta roto,ni va a romperse por eso"

¿que hago me lo pillo aun con ese toque,,,, y por ese dinero?, saludos y arriba el metal.

buenas
q te pase fotos no? y q se vea el detalle
yo tengo ese plato y es la tapa de alcantarilla mas cojonuda del mundo
es un platazo, mira bien q no sea grieta, si es una pequeñisima muesquecita como dice el..... yo lo veo bien, el precio no es muy bueno yo lo veo un pelin alto, pero q cojones es un platazo para toda la vida !!!

a ver xavales,el del plato soy yo,vamos ya llevo bastante tiempo en este foro y me conocen muchos foreros,con lo cual creo que hay confianza,os paso unas fotos de este plato que lleva conmigo desde el año 1986 y la muesca esta en el plato desde el 89 o 90,no creo que ahora se vaya a rajar,de echo este plato lo pongo en venta,porque lleva tanto conmigo que ya estoy cansado,ahora me acabo de pillar tres platos y he decidido venderlo,mas sincero no puedo ser.y es cierto,es un platazo,no habia visto nada tan resistente.salu2
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Si lleva tanto tiempo ahi no creo que rompa, pero bueno, es una conjetura, no me atreveria (logicamente) a grantizar nada.
Vamos, mis Istanbul, por estar hechos a mano, tienen cosas "peores" de fabrica y ahi estan jejeje.
Tambien que proceden del martilleado deliberado de un experto, no son algo ajeno y posterior a la confeccion del plato, que probablemente sea de un golpecito con el herraje u otro plato...

No se, a mi no me parece grave, pero a lo mejor bajaria un pelín el precio. Es un plato de gama media, con muchisimos años a las espaldas, y un pequeño defecto que, si bien no parece representar un problema real, siempre ralla e inquieta...

Un saludo ;)

Si ya deliverais que va a romper por eso,no teneis ni puta idea,troncos....eso no raja no patras...

hablando de cosaske inkietan en los platos, mi medium crash de la innovations tiene una rayitas medio inquietantes en la campana por abajo, la neta no eh tocado mucho por miedo a ke se cargue al plato y ahora no tengo dinero para otro :S

Alguien escribió:
* 302, 402, 502, 802 popular budget level cymbals from the 1990s - early 2000s, in 1997 were enhanced sonically and received the plus-labeling and the addition of the 802. Discontinued in 2005 from the way of the new Paiste Sound Technology-, or PST-lines.
* Formula 602 series, made from B20 bronze, first released in 1957. These cymbals have a dedicated group of fans. Many examples of the heavier types still exist, butthe paper-thin crashes are rare and almost priceless, other models vary between these extremes.
* 101 series, different from current 101, beginner level cymbals made of nickel silver, produced from 1974 to -79. Then another Brass version Discontinued In 2005, for a newer version
* 404 series, beginner level CuSn8-cymbals, produced from 1974 to 1985.
* 505 series, advanced student CuSn8-cymbals, produced from 1974 to 1985.
* 100 series, beginner level cymbals made of Paiste's Brass Alloy, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s.
* 200 series, beginner level cymbals made of Paiste's Brass Alloy, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s.
* 400 series, advanced student cymbals made of CuSn8 bronze, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s. Was also available with COLORSOUND finishes.
* 500 series, orchestral/marching cymbals made of CuSn8 bronze, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s. Was also available with COLORSOUND finishes.
* 900 series, orchestral/marching cymbals made of CuSn8 bronze, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s. Was also available with COLORSOUND finishes.
* 1000 series, semi-professional line made of CuSn8 bronze, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s. Was also available in RUDE finish.
* 2000 professional series made of CuSn8 bronze, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s. Was also available with COLORSOUND and Sound Reflection finishes.
* 3000 professional series made of CuSn8 bronze, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s. Was also available with RUDE and Sound Reflection finishes.
* Sound Formula, one of the first series to use Paiste's patented Signature Alloy, which was at first known as Sound Alloy or Sound Formula. Eventually absorbed by the "Signature" line.
* COLORSOUND 5 series, professional CuSn8-cymbals, produced from appox. 1983 to 1986. Five colors were offered for visual appeal. Note: The COLORSOUND 5 cymbals are different than 400, 500, 900, 2000 and Visions cymbals even though they are colored, or have the COLORSOUND name attached.
* VISIONS series, professional level; Both Signature Alloy and CuSn8 alloy cymbals, produced in the early mid 90s. Were treated with COLORSOUND process. Offered in Black only. Designed for Terry Bozzio.
* BRASSTONES, an entry level Paiste Brass alloy series introduced in the early 90s, discontinued in the mid-90s.
* Zilko A series made in the 1950's second to the Stambul line.
* Stanople, a mid-line series introduced in the 1960s, discontinued in the 1970s.
* Ludwig Standard, a mid-line series from the 1950s-70s produced for distribution by Ludwig Drums.
* Stambul, their old top-of-the-line cymbals, produced from 1932 to 1965 from NS12 nickel-bronze and later made of CuSn8 bronze.
* SOUND CREATION, top of the line professional bell bronze cymbals that were made alongside the 602 series starting in 1975 till the end of 80s.
* Dixie, entry level NS12 cymbals made in the 60's, later also offered in B8.
* Dimensions - This was considered a professional level cymbal which later merged in with the 2002 line. They were introduced in 1999 and are now discontinued.
* Innovations - This is a professional level cymbal line made with the 2002 bronze. They are mechanically pre-shaped, hand hammered, and lathed. Introducted in 2001, this line is now discontinued.

muy buena informacion

eso es un plomillazo, me parece una tonteria q CREO q no afecta ni al sonido ni a la calidad, ESE PLATO NO LO PARTES TU ni de coña

E pasa, veo que no hay mayor problema con la muesqesita, si bajaras un poco el rpecio del plato lo compraria, pues tengo buenas criticas de dicho plato, pero claro no ando mu bien de pasta, pero vamo no digo que me lo dejes en 60 ni 70, pero tu sabes como va el rollo, como tu veas hermano, saludos y arriba el metal.

HOLA A TODOS:
Efectivamente la info de las series históricas de PAISTE es
de Wikipedia.
Me alegro que os haya sido útil o de interés, pa eso estamos en
el foro.

Respecto a lo del pequeño defecto en el plato, no creo que pase
nada la verdad, si bien yo confieso que no compro platos de 2ª
mano con defectos por pequeño que sea éste. Ahora, la decisión
ya es cosa del comprador.

Respecto a precios, 100e por un 1000 Power Crash me parece
razonable (mi opinión), porque el plato seguramente te sorprenderá
si nunca has probado un 1000. Yo tenía un crash de 18'' hace años
y todavía me estoy arrepintiendo de haberlo vendido, gracias que
recientemente he conseguido un crash 16'' serie 1000, jejeje...
El sonido es espectacular, bonito, buen sustain, brillito...

SALUDOS Y SUERTE.

LoLo_La_bestiA escribió:
E pasa, veo que no hay mayor problema con la muesqesita, si bajaras un poco el rpecio del plato lo compraria, pues tengo buenas criticas de dicho plato, pero claro no ando mu bien de pasta, pero vamo no digo que me lo dejes en 60 ni 70, pero tu sabes como va el rollo, como tu veas hermano, saludos y arriba el metal.

el precio que le puse al plato fue 125 euros y te lo ofrecí por 100 euros,por lo de la muesca,que no tiene ni la mas minima importancia,el plato suena muy bien y no lo voy a vender mas barato,porque para eso,me lo quedo yo por si me apetece utilizarlo alguna vez,si te sigue interesando me escribes un mail.salu2

Bueno, ya se ha aportado lo que habia para aportar, a partir de ahora creo que lo mejor es que sigais por privado.

Suerte con la venta ;)

Bueno, aunque se ha dicho todo y yo voy tarde, como yo tuve ese modelo de plato durante la primera mitad de los 90 voy a decir cuatro palabras.

En cuanto a sonido es un plato muy contundente que responde tocado a gran volumen, pero que no tiene sutilidad. Es muy grueso, es lo que tiene ser "power, y por tanto muy agudo para ser un 18". Dispone de un sustain enorme, y un ataque muy rápido.

JACEDRES escribió:
Efectivamente, los Paiste 1000 dejaron de fabricarse a finales de
los 80. Hasta hace bien poco (2000-2001) todavía podían verse
en algunas tiendas. Eran remesas sobrantes o no vendidas en su
época. Estaban muy bien porque eran platos de gama media con un
sonido excelente. Solían tener descuentos elevados por estar
descatalogados. Yo conseguí así un Power Ride por unas 15.000ptas
de antes (su precio original era bastante más).También tengo un
crash de 16'' recientemente adquirido, este de 2ª mano.

Ahí va un artículo sobre las series históricas de PAISTE:

Historic lines
Classic Paiste lines include:

302, 402, 502, 802 popular budget level cymbals from the 1990s - early 2000s, in 1997 were enhanced sonically and received the plus-labeling and the addition of the 802. Discontinued in 2005 from the way of the new Paiste Sound Technology-, or PST-lines.
Formula 602 series, made from B20 bronze, first released in 1957. These cymbals have a dedicated group of fans. Many examples of the heavier types still exist, butthe paper-thin crashes are rare and almost priceless, other models vary between these extremes.
101 series, different from current 101, beginner level cymbals made of nickel silver, produced from 1974 to -79. Then another Brass version Discontinued In 2005, for a newer version
404 series, beginner level CuSn8-cymbals, produced from 1974 to 1985.
505 series, advanced student CuSn8-cymbals, produced from 1974 to 1985.
100 series, beginner level cymbals made of Paiste's Brass Alloy, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s.
200 series, beginner level cymbals made of Paiste's Brass Alloy, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s.
400 series, advanced student cymbals made of CuSn8 bronze, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s. Was also available with COLORSOUND finishes.
500 series, orchestral/marching cymbals made of CuSn8 bronze, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s. Was also available with COLORSOUND finishes.
900 series, orchestral/marching cymbals made of CuSn8 bronze, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s. Was also available with COLORSOUND finishes.
1000 series, semi-professional line made of CuSn8 bronze, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s. Was also available in RUDE finish.
2000 professional series made of CuSn8 bronze, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s. Was also available with COLORSOUND and Sound Reflection finishes.
3000 professional series made of CuSn8 bronze, produced from 1986 until the beginning of the 1990s. Was also available with RUDE and Sound Reflection finishes.
Sound Formula, one of the first series to use Paiste's patented Signature Alloy, which was at first known as Sound Alloy or Sound Formula. Eventually absorbed by the "Signature" line.
COLORSOUND 5 series, professional CuSn8-cymbals, produced from appox. 1983 to 1986. Five colors were offered for visual appeal. Note: The COLORSOUND 5 cymbals are different than 400, 500, 900, 2000 and Visions cymbals even though they are colored, or have the COLORSOUND name attached.
VISIONS series, professional level]Signature Alloy[/I] and CuSn8 alloy cymbals, produced in the early mid 90s. Were treated with COLORSOUND process. Offered in Black only. Designed for Terry Bozzio.
BRASSTONES, an entry level Paiste Brass alloy series introduced in the early 90s, discontinued in the mid-90s.
Zilko A series made in the 1950's second to the Stambul line.
Stanople, a mid-line series introduced in the 1960s, discontinued in the 1970s.
Ludwig Standard, a mid-line series from the 1950s-70s produced for distribution by Ludwig Drums.
Stambul, their old top-of-the-line cymbals, produced from 1932 to 1965 from NS12 nickel-bronze and later made of CuSn8 bronze.
SOUND CREATION, top of the line professional bell bronze cymbals that were made alongside the 602 series starting in 1975 till the end of 80s.
Dixie, entry level NS12 cymbals made in the 60's, later also offered in B8.
Dimensions - This was considered a professional level cymbal which later merged in with the 2002 line. They were introduced in 1999 and are now discontinued.
Innovations - This is a professional level cymbal line made with the 2002 bronze. They are mechanically pre-shaped, hand hammered, and lathed. Introducted in 2001, this line is now discontinued.

y alguien sabe la diferencia entre en paiste sound formula y el sound formula 602?

Pues no tienen nada que ver,unos son una aleacion diferente de la 2002 y de hace unos cuantos añitos ya(entre los 60 y 70) y los sound formula eran los antiguos dimensions y se dejaronde fabricar en el año 99.

La aleacion 602 me parece la mejor que ha hecho paiste,mucho mejor que la 2002.