componentes para caja.
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Puedes mirar en tam tam, que todo eso lo tienes alli.
Para mirar fuera:
www.drummaker.com www.drumgearonline.com www.amdrumparts.com
Bellotas - Lugs
Tornillos - Screws
Bordonera - Snare Wires
Aros - Hoops
Para mirar fuera:
www.drummaker.com www.drumgearonline.com www.amdrumparts.com
Bellotas - Lugs
Tornillos - Screws
Bordonera - Snare Wires
Aros - Hoops
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Son los de arriba del todo de este enlace:
http://www.drumgearonline.com/diecasts2.html
Es de una de las webs que te ha dicho el Morao, yo creo que de fiar, les preguté una cosa hace poco y a la media hora ya habian respondido, mirando gastos de envio y eso...
http://www.drumgearonline.com/diecasts2.html
Es de una de las webs que te ha dicho el Morao, yo creo que de fiar, les preguté una cosa hace poco y a la media hora ya habian respondido, mirando gastos de envio y eso...
A ver que os parece el temita.
3 1/2" Double End 7.40$ X 8 = 59.2$
DIE-CAST 13", 8 Hole Set (Top & Snare Side) 88.95$
9.
Chrome Snare Wires 13" - 20 Strands 6.75$
Die Cast Chrome Design, Classic, Mounting: 2 1/2" Price $4.95
4.
Chrome Drum Vent 3.49$
3 1/2" Double End 7.40$ X 8 = 59.2$
DIE-CAST 13", 8 Hole Set (Top & Snare Side) 88.95$
9.
Fits on Numerous Snares, Excellent DW or Nickel Replacement, Chrome Design, Die Cast, Adjustable Mounting: Mounts Anywhere From 3/8" to 1 1/2" (includes mounting screws, which may not fit on all shells)
Price $35.99
Price $35.99
Chrome Snare Wires 13" - 20 Strands 6.75$
Die Cast Chrome Design, Classic, Mounting: 2 1/2" Price $4.95
4.
Chrome Drum Vent 3.49$
Hola! Si tienes cualquier duda con las medidas de los tornillos, o lo que sea , tú le dices al de la tienda cómo es tu casco (material y medidas) y ellos te ayudan , si tienes cualquier duda con el inglés mándame un privado y te ayudo en lo que pueda, no pagarás tasas en aduana si el paquete tiene un valor declarado de 150 euros o menos, aunque nunca se sabe... suerte!
...salud!
...salud!
P
jerito dijo:Ya tengo el casco.
Casco de bronce industrial de 13"x6" fabricado en arcelor mittal factory by Villaverde, es decir, en el curro.
No puedo poner el detalle del borde porque tengo un problemilla con las fotos, pero en breve estará.
Sludos.
curras por la colonia marconi???
y en villaverde seguro q conoces la morcilla!!!
explicate como lo has hecho, please.
Pues en el curro teníamos un cacho de tubo de bronce, que no se usaba para nada, y un compi se lo ha currado con un torno.
Aquí va el borde. Por cierto, ¿lleva algún rebje para la bordonera o algo así?
http://imageshack.us
Gracias.
Aquí va el borde. Por cierto, ¿lleva algún rebje para la bordonera o algo así?
http://imageshack.us
Gracias.
ask2o dijo:
¿Las de metal tambien lo llevan? Porque yo en estoy tampoco estoy nada puesto :-s
Hola! Respecto al snare bed o lecho de la bordonera se ha hablado bastante por el foro, buscad que encontrareis mucha información, pero resumiendo yo diria que:
- Son unos pequeños rebajes en el casco en los dos puntos en los que acaba la bordonera, para que ésta esté en perfecto contacto con el parche y la vibración sea uniforme.
- Todas las cajas que se precien la llevan o deberían llevarla.
- Desconozco los motivos científicos al repecto, pero sin ella la caja suena como el culo.
- Es algo que debe ser hecho bien y por un profesional.
- Existen varias medidas de rebaje, por ejemplo la Musashi de Yamaha lo lleva más pronunciado de lo normal.
Hace poco, hablando de esto, alguien comentó que tenía una caja vintage Rogers o algo así, o sea una buena caja, y aseguraba que no llevaba snare bed. Yo he comprobado que todas las cajas que tengo o han pasado por mis manos lo llevaban, hasta una triste Jimbao que tuve lo llevaba (hecho con dos martillazos, pero lo llevaba).
...salud!
- Son unos pequeños rebajes en el casco en los dos puntos en los que acaba la bordonera, para que ésta esté en perfecto contacto con el parche y la vibración sea uniforme.
- Todas las cajas que se precien la llevan o deberían llevarla.
- Desconozco los motivos científicos al repecto, pero sin ella la caja suena como el culo.
- Es algo que debe ser hecho bien y por un profesional.
- Existen varias medidas de rebaje, por ejemplo la Musashi de Yamaha lo lleva más pronunciado de lo normal.
Hace poco, hablando de esto, alguien comentó que tenía una caja vintage Rogers o algo así, o sea una buena caja, y aseguraba que no llevaba snare bed. Yo he comprobado que todas las cajas que tengo o han pasado por mis manos lo llevaban, hasta una triste Jimbao que tuve lo llevaba (hecho con dos martillazos, pero lo llevaba).
...salud!
C
Pues siento contradecirte Angelaia pero todas las cajas que yo he tenido incluyendo la Sonor Signature Bubinga, las Ludwig Supras y supersensitive, Rogers Dynasonic y todos los cascos de jKeller no llevan ningún snare bed...
AAdemás si lo haces el parche no apoyará bien donde va el bordon...
Jeritoooo... no lo hagas tio, deja ese casco como está y hazle los bujeros...
Si quieres las demás piezas yo las consigo
AAdemás si lo haces el parche no apoyará bien donde va el bordon...
Jeritoooo... no lo hagas tio, deja ese casco como está y hazle los bujeros...
Si quieres las demás piezas yo las consigo
Estas seguro?
Puede ser que lo lleve pero que no se aprecie a simple vista, a veces incluso al tacto cuestan de detectar.
Precisamente en la zona del snare bed no asienta bien el parche, el parche queda un poco flojo en esa zona y es lo que hace precisamente que la bordonera tenga un buen contacto por toda la superfície.
Yo he tenido una Luwig Supraphonic y una Acrolite y sí llevaban el snare bed.
A veces es sutil y has de poner el casco sobre una superfície plana y iluminar dentro con una linterna, entonces se aprecian mejor,
pero puedo estar equivocado, no soy ningún experto.
Puede ser que lo lleve pero que no se aprecie a simple vista, a veces incluso al tacto cuestan de detectar.
Precisamente en la zona del snare bed no asienta bien el parche, el parche queda un poco flojo en esa zona y es lo que hace precisamente que la bordonera tenga un buen contacto por toda la superfície.
Yo he tenido una Luwig Supraphonic y una Acrolite y sí llevaban el snare bed.
A veces es sutil y has de poner el casco sobre una superfície plana y iluminar dentro con una linterna, entonces se aprecian mejor,
pero puedo estar equivocado, no soy ningún experto.
Hola! Soy yo otra vez, sería interesante abrir un post sólo con este tema de el snare bed porque es de lo más interesante. Yo os copio aquí un texto de Ronn Dunnett, que habla sobre la importancia del snare bed, también explica que puede no haber snare bed en las cajas tipo supersensitivas o de acción paralela porque con ese sistema la bordonera ya asienta perfectamente, no como en el caso de los sistemas bordoneros normales, en los que hay una presión hacia el casco. Lo siento, está en inglés:
"Snare Beds © 2001 Ronn Dunnett
The Snare Bed Primer Of all of the details and attention to detail that is paid to the various aspects and components that make up a snare drum, the snare bed is probably the most neglected and misunderstood part of the instrument. Think back to all of the literature you have seen and read about drums and drumming and see if you remember any sort of discussion regarding snare beds. My guess is that like myself, you really won't recall much at all. I'm not sure why this is. Perhaps some companies don't have a grasp on the importance of the snare beds and the role it plays in determining how a snare drum will perform. And it's been my experience that some of them have occasionally forgotten to even install them, let alone discuss them! This was one of the reasons I began making drums. HistorySnare beds appear to have been in use since the earliest days of drum building when the beds were hand hewn with a wood file. While they were somewhat crudely placed, they were some of the best Definition The snare bed is the indentation or dip that is located on the bottom bearing edge of the snare drum shell and centered under both the snare release and the butt plate. The length and depth and contour of the beds vary greatly among builders and manufacturers. It is located between the lugs that are located on either side of the throw off and butt end. The snare bed is one of five elements that go into the making of the snare function, the other four being the release mechanism, the snare head, the snare attachment and the snare wire set. Adjustment Axis It is important to understand that the snare wire adjustment operates on both horizontal and vertical axis. The vertical axis is the movement of the snare wire set 'into' the drum head. This adjustment controls the amount of snare set tension, deflection and recoil of the snare set and thus the sensitivity and response of the drum. Deflection and recoil may also be effected by the means used to attached the snares to the throw off and butt. Snare set control as a Product of Bed DepthOn Dunnett Classic snare drums the range of control is evident in the amount of usable vertical travel. An effective way to illustrate this concept is to take a piece of plastic food wrap and stretch it over the bottom of your snare drum in place of the head so that the surface ofthe film is taught. Next, take a yardstick and lay it across the covered bottom of the drum so that it lies in the center of the drum where the snare wires would normally lie. With one hand on each end of the yard stick push down until you feel the stick touch the bottom of the snare beds. The distance that you are able to push down is the amount of vertical travel your drum has to work with. What happens in a drum that has shallow beds or no beds at all is that vertical travel is limited or non-existant. In this condition virtually any tension that is applied via the throw off mechanism merely stretches the wires along the horizontal surface of the head. Stretching the snare wires in this way severly restricts the movement of the drum head and snare set deflection, thus choking the drum. Unless the drum is equipped with an adjustable butt end or an independant horizontal tensioning system (ie: Dynasonic), independant horizontal and vertical adjustments cannot be made. In the case of the Rogers Dynasonic system, a bed was not required because the wire set did not extend past the bearing edges and thus it was still possible to have some vertical adjustment. See diagram 1. Independent tensioning systems that do extend past the head do require snare beds. Most snare drums to do not come equipped with an independant horizontal adjustment system and thus they rely on the snare bed... As the snare set is being tensioned from a slack position it is actually being drawn up into the head (vertical axis). When the tension has increased to the point where the wires have "bottomed out" on the snare beds and the snare wire set can no longer up into the head a transition that occurs and any further tensioning past the bottoming point is strictly horizontal - the wires are merely being stretched across the surface of the head. This is usually a problem in snare drums that have shallow or non existent snare beds as this usually results in the drum "choking". 'Choking' is a term used to describe a condition in which the snare wire set and/or the heads have been over tensioned to the point where the snare wires no longer function effectively (negative deflection) or the heads no longer resonate freely. A drum that has a deep snare bed substantially decreases the possiility of choking through an increased range of vertical adjustment."
...salud!
"Snare Beds © 2001 Ronn Dunnett
The Snare Bed Primer Of all of the details and attention to detail that is paid to the various aspects and components that make up a snare drum, the snare bed is probably the most neglected and misunderstood part of the instrument. Think back to all of the literature you have seen and read about drums and drumming and see if you remember any sort of discussion regarding snare beds. My guess is that like myself, you really won't recall much at all. I'm not sure why this is. Perhaps some companies don't have a grasp on the importance of the snare beds and the role it plays in determining how a snare drum will perform. And it's been my experience that some of them have occasionally forgotten to even install them, let alone discuss them! This was one of the reasons I began making drums. HistorySnare beds appear to have been in use since the earliest days of drum building when the beds were hand hewn with a wood file. While they were somewhat crudely placed, they were some of the best Definition The snare bed is the indentation or dip that is located on the bottom bearing edge of the snare drum shell and centered under both the snare release and the butt plate. The length and depth and contour of the beds vary greatly among builders and manufacturers. It is located between the lugs that are located on either side of the throw off and butt end. The snare bed is one of five elements that go into the making of the snare function, the other four being the release mechanism, the snare head, the snare attachment and the snare wire set. Adjustment Axis It is important to understand that the snare wire adjustment operates on both horizontal and vertical axis. The vertical axis is the movement of the snare wire set 'into' the drum head. This adjustment controls the amount of snare set tension, deflection and recoil of the snare set and thus the sensitivity and response of the drum. Deflection and recoil may also be effected by the means used to attached the snares to the throw off and butt. Snare set control as a Product of Bed DepthOn Dunnett Classic snare drums the range of control is evident in the amount of usable vertical travel. An effective way to illustrate this concept is to take a piece of plastic food wrap and stretch it over the bottom of your snare drum in place of the head so that the surface ofthe film is taught. Next, take a yardstick and lay it across the covered bottom of the drum so that it lies in the center of the drum where the snare wires would normally lie. With one hand on each end of the yard stick push down until you feel the stick touch the bottom of the snare beds. The distance that you are able to push down is the amount of vertical travel your drum has to work with. What happens in a drum that has shallow beds or no beds at all is that vertical travel is limited or non-existant. In this condition virtually any tension that is applied via the throw off mechanism merely stretches the wires along the horizontal surface of the head. Stretching the snare wires in this way severly restricts the movement of the drum head and snare set deflection, thus choking the drum. Unless the drum is equipped with an adjustable butt end or an independant horizontal tensioning system (ie: Dynasonic), independant horizontal and vertical adjustments cannot be made. In the case of the Rogers Dynasonic system, a bed was not required because the wire set did not extend past the bearing edges and thus it was still possible to have some vertical adjustment. See diagram 1. Independent tensioning systems that do extend past the head do require snare beds. Most snare drums to do not come equipped with an independant horizontal adjustment system and thus they rely on the snare bed... As the snare set is being tensioned from a slack position it is actually being drawn up into the head (vertical axis). When the tension has increased to the point where the wires have "bottomed out" on the snare beds and the snare wire set can no longer up into the head a transition that occurs and any further tensioning past the bottoming point is strictly horizontal - the wires are merely being stretched across the surface of the head. This is usually a problem in snare drums that have shallow or non existent snare beds as this usually results in the drum "choking". 'Choking' is a term used to describe a condition in which the snare wire set and/or the heads have been over tensioned to the point where the snare wires no longer function effectively (negative deflection) or the heads no longer resonate freely. A drum that has a deep snare bed substantially decreases the possiility of choking through an increased range of vertical adjustment."
...salud!
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